It would seem that John McCain won in a rout in the mini-debate held with Barack Obama at Saddleback. Certainly there was no evidence from his serial evasions that The Obama On The Way Up won; on the contrary, the shrillness of left-wing responses indicated understanding that their man was eroding, and rather quickly, further shown by Obama's choices for advisors as stated by him.
The Man On The Way Up - not this one.
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